B105: What went wrong

Clarification: Mitch Braund has called me to point out that he did not attack Jamie Dunn when he spoke to a Brisbane journalist in March this year, but he did challenge the view that some radio stunts were "distasteful" and "lacked integrity". Braund says he and Dunn have since "had a laugh" over the newspaper report.
- June 19

On May 6, I took Brisbane Radio B105 content director Mitch Braund to task because he was quoted as saying that former top-rating announcer Jamie Dunn was out of touch with what audiences wanted. In that post I also noted that B105's current breakfast team of Labrat, Camilla and Stav had "had a shocker" of a result in the third 2008 radio ratings survey, and expressed the hope that they would do better next time (because, as I said then and I still believe, they are nice people). Well, sadly for them, the survey four results are out and B105 has dropped again to what is almost certainly the lowest audience share in its history. In this Courier-Mail online article, Austereo Brisbane general manager Richard Barker has tried to put a positive spin on things, but he - and his superiors in Sydney - must know that the station is in trouble. He notes, correctly, that B105's cumulative audience (cume) remains steady, but he also knows that that is not the figure advertisers look at. People dropping in and out of a station are unlikely to hear the advertisements, and in commercial radio that's all that counts. Barker also knows that in the good times - largely when Jamie Dunn and Ian Skippen were helming the breakfast show - B105 always boasted about its audience share - the figure he is now dismissing. The fact is that, save Triple J, Radio National and ABC News Radio, B105's breakfast show is now at the bottom of the pile - rating even lower than the perennial wooden-spooners over at 4BH (who do a great job for the older demographic). So what went wrong at B105, the mighty station that once commanded more than a third of all Brisbane listeners? I don't expect the Austereo people are listening, but I'll tell them for free. (And before we go any further, do not mistake what I am about to say as a sexist statement; it's a matter of commercial realities.) What went wrong is that Camilla Severi got pregnant. How did that change things? Well, B105 was pitching itself as a hits station aimed at cashed-up young people, with madcap, juvenile stunts and a free-and-easy attitude. Then, out of the blue, its very young female presenter entered the nappy brigade. B105 embraced the situation, by having "yummy mummy" events and other baby-related japes, but the way I see it, all this alienated the audience the station was trying to capture - the 18-24 and 25-29 year olds who are happily listening to Nova 106.9 and haven't even given parenthood a second thought. (Yes, I know Ash Bradnam talks about his kid on Nova, but it doesn't take over the show - and, of course, Nova has an arguably edgier music mix and plays just two ads in a row to counter the dial-surfing factor.) B105 has two choices - it either changes format to actively pursue an audience that's interested in baby talk* (unlikely given that that's a network decision) or it, once again, changes its breakfast show. The latter would be a great pity because the people involved with the show are not just nice, they are also good operators. But after 18 months on-air, it's unlikely that they will do a Lazarus in the ratings. Given the success of Hamish and Andy in the drivetime slot, and the tightening economies in the media, I wouldn't be at all surprised if there is a networked or partially networked breakfast show on B105 next year (as there is over the current mid-year break). I know some people reading this will say that networked breakfast shows don't work in Brisbane - but if going from first to last in the space of just four years is "working", I'd like to hear the definition of failure.
PS: Sunshine Coast-based Jamie Dunn is probably wetting himself right now, and he has most likely already phoned several Brisbane radio stations to offer his services.
Disclosure: Brett Debritz briefly presented an entertainment segment on B105's breakfast show, and is still occasionally heard on 612 ABC's Spencer Howson program, which is the No. 2 breakfast show in Brisbane. Brett also once tried to write a book with Jamie Dunn.
Update (i.e. afterthought): * Which would also mean toning down the content for a family audience. Mums on the school run don't want their kids to listen to crude content.

Brett, If you want to know

Brett, If you want to know what has gone wrong for B105 today, one has to look back twenty years to when 4BK moved to FM and became B105 (in other words the genesis of B105). Thanks to the wonders of Youtube, a user has preserved these gems.

B105 FM Launch 1990.
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=AyKcApVwZSM

B105 wins it's first radio ratings survey (post 4BK) in 1990 (look out for 4IP's figure).
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=LYBOG-6NvM4

B105 suffers first defeat post FM switch (and first FM band defeat since 1985) to AM station 4KQ in first survey of either 1993 or 1994.
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=s454YPV4TGk

Bonus clip- Remember When... People thought "Bright and Beautiful" 4BH was switching to FM like 4BK? It almost happened... in 1990 when 4BH won a second Brisbane FM conversion licence.
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=m1AzRrH67Do

Tell me what you think Brett.

Interesting stuff. I know

Interesting stuff. I know a lot of the people in those clips. They seem so young.
What did happen about the 4BH license? Not enough money, from memory. I know they ended up being bought by KQ and then by BC when KQ launched 97.3.
Also I thought the 4IP thing referred to the first name change, when they became Radio Ten back in1980. The launch was on the Gold Coast and I was there, covering it for the Queensland Times. They later became Stereo 10 and then Lite 'n Easy 10 or something (with Jackie McDonald?), then 4IP again - but nothing worked.

Brett, the 4IP fact was that

Brett, the 4IP fact was that in the first survey that B105 won in 1990, 4IP only had three percent share of the Brisbane audience in 1990 compared to their heyday in the 1970's where they consistantly rated #1 in Brisbane. By 1992-93 the Queensland TAB bought them out and promptly changed the format to racing-only and the callsign to 4TAB.

Bar the demolition of the former 4IP studios on Coronation Drive and a reunion on River 94.9 we have heard hardly anything from these legends of Brisbane radio.

River 94.9's 4IP Reunion picture gallery
http://www.river949.com.au/summary_gallery_photo.php?id=14

1980's advertisement for Radio 10
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=4C6_rXCHgKk

Radio 10's (AM stereo ready) Coronation Drive studios opened by Boy George in July 1984.
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=tsi-OCOPZRk

4IP returns 1990
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=iq19-EhDWM0

4IP's last day before becoming 4TAB in 1992.
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=iWSLFOZZh5A

The thing that 4IP and B105

The thing that 4IP and B105 have in common Brett, is the fact that their downturn took 13 years (4IP's being caused by FM radio (in particular Triple M/FM104) and B105's caused by increased competition in the Brisbane FM market since 2001) they both mucked around with their format late in the 13 year run (in 4IP's case through the entire 13 years while B105 had breakfast stability until 2004 when Ian Skippen went across the hallway to Triple M) In other words stability pays dividends.

I completely agree with you

I completely agree with you Brett.

About 5-6 years ago, there was no Nova and pretty much the only mainstream stations a girl in her early 20s had to listen to was B105 and Triple M. Not being much of a Cold Chisel fan, I chose B105.

The breakfast team of Jamie, Penny and Ian were okay and I enjoyed the show. However all of this changed when the once cynical yet witty Penny got married and almost immediately, became pregnant.

All of a sudden she changed from being the independent, career girl type into some kind of “mumsy” caricature, regaling listeners daily with very uninteresting (and not funny, no matter how hard she tried to make them) stories of her pregnancy and new domestic life. I could tell that Jamie and Ian weren’t interested in her stories either.

Her pregnancy was the beginning of the end – and the show eventually disbanded. (Where is Penny now?)

I have nothing against pregnancy, and it’s a fact of life that when a woman gets pregnant, everything changes and it can’t be expected that they will remain the same. My point is that 18-35 year olds just don’t want to listen to it!

In closing, I have to say that Nova (who I now listen to and LOVE) have hit the winning jackpot with Meshel Laurie, who seems to be very content with just her husband and her dogs!

I have just finished

I have just finished listening to 'The Pop-Up Breakfast Show' on B105. These guys were a nice fresh change and I really enjoyed them. As much as I enjoy some of Labrat, Camilla and Stav, Stav saves the show. If it wasn't for him I would not be listening to B105 in the morning at all. I am a male in my mid 20's and have had enough of the baby stuff and yummy mummy things. I also HATE the fact that I hear the same thing 6 or 7 times in one week. Must they be so un-original and just keep repeating themselves. Towards the end of the last rating survey it felt like Groundhog Day! I was one of those people who was listening to Spencer. Mainly because I went to sleep listening to the cricket and Spencer was on when I woke up! I wonder if that had anything to do with Spencer's jump?

Would Hamish and Andy concider moving to Brisbne to do Breakfast???

Matt, I don't envisage

Matt, I don't envisage Hamish and Andy coming to Brisbane coming to Brisbane, but I could see them doing a national breakfast show with local "windows" - or, more likely, a local breakfast show that draws heavily on material from their drive show. (The reverse of what often happens in radio, where "highlights" from the breakfast show would be played across the rest of the day.) I agree with you that Stav is a real talent, but the others are too - it's just that the show is all wrong for the target audience. Austereo perhaps should have moved Camilla to Triple M and got in a young woman who was into the kind of things young people without babies -- i.e. the vast majority of the -- are into. As for Spencer benefiting from the cricket, the conventional wisdom at the ABC is that the cricket actually drags down the 612 audience (or, at least, causes a switch off among loyal listeners when it intrudes on the normal shifts). Given the way the deeply-flawed survey "book" works I don't think it would show up in the circumstances you describe, because people would only diarise the shows they make a deliberate choice to listen to.

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